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Sysop: /* What should be done with homosexuals? */
2021-10-13T17:10:22Z
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Are all people sinners?==</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Are all people sinners?==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' There can be no righteous people (ROM 3:10) because all have sinned (1KIN 8:46; ECC 7:20; ROM 3:23), and those who claim otherwise are self-deceived (1JOH 1:8) or liars (1JOH 1:10)<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' There can be no righteous people (ROM 3:10) because all have sinned (1KIN 8:46; ECC 7:20; ROM 3:23), and those who claim otherwise are self-deceived (1JOH 1:8) or liars (1JOH 1:10) <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">because absolutely </ins>everyone is filthy (PRO 20:9), and no one has ever done a single good thing (PSA 14:2-3). This is because people are <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">produced via </ins>sex, which is intrinsically sinful (PSA 51:5)<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">; this </ins>is compounded by the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">additional </ins>burden of Original Sin (ROM 5:12; 1COR 15:22). Only God is capable of good (MAR 10:18).</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">**Absolutely </del>everyone is filthy (PRO 20:9), and no one has ever done a single good thing (PSA 14:2-3).  </div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">**</del>This is because people are <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">formed by </del>sex, which is intrinsically sinful (PSA 51:5)<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, which </del>is compounded by the burden of Original Sin (ROM 5:12; 1COR 15:22). Only God is capable of good (MAR 10:18).</div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' Several people have lived without sin:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' Several people have lived without sin:</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">***Please note that there is </ins>no scriptural basis <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">for this dogma</ins>; it was <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">an </ins>''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility ex cathedra]'' <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">declaration </ins>by [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_IX Pope Pius IX] in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ineffabilis_Deus ''Ineffabilis Deus''] (1854).</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes and no.'''  Humanity is a mixed bag of sinners and righteous people (LUK 6:45), which is why a Christ was needed in the first place (1JOH 2:1).  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes and no.'''  Humanity is a mixed bag of sinners and righteous people (LUK 6:45), which is why a Christ was needed in the first place (1JOH 2:1).  </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Jesus (JOH 5:28-29; 2COR 5:10) and God (ROM 2:5-6; 1PET 1:17) judge people based on their works, and their compliance with God's laws (ROM 2:13). God distributes divine mercy in proportion to these works (PSA 62:12).  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Jesus (JOH 5:28-29; 2COR 5:10) and God (ROM 2:5-6; 1PET 1:17) judge people based on their works, and their compliance with God's laws (ROM 2:13). God distributes divine mercy in proportion to these works (PSA 62:12).  </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Claims of faith are meaningless unless they are made tangible by works (JAM 2:14, 17, 22-24, 26).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Claims of faith are meaningless unless they are made tangible by works (JAM 2:14, 17, 22-24, 26).</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No:'''  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No:'''  </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Only the “born again” are saved (JOH 3:3). Those who do not believe in Jesus are automatically damned to hell. (JOH 3:18, 36).  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Only the “born again” are saved (JOH 3:3). Those who do not believe in Jesus are automatically damned to hell. (JOH 3:18, 36).  </div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*'''Not really.''' Jesus judged men based on what they said they would do (MAT 12:37).</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*'''Irrelevant:''' </ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">**God predetermined your salvation before you were ever born, so neither faith nor works can alter the outcome (ROM 8:29).</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**The works of man are irrelevant, since salvation is granted arbitrarily at Jesus’ discretion. (EPH 1:3-5).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**The works of man are irrelevant, since salvation is granted arbitrarily at Jesus’ discretion. (EPH 1:3-5).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*'''Irrelevant.''' God predetermined your salvation before you were ever born, so neither faith nor works can alter the outcome (ROM 8:29).</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Maybe?:'''  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Maybe?:'''  </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**You only need to love God and your neighbor to be saved (LUK 10:26-28).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**You only need to love God and your neighbor to be saved (LUK 10:26-28).</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**You can always buy your way out of sins via alms giving (TOB 12:9). ''Please note that this is an Apocryphal claim.''</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**You can always buy your way out of sins via alms giving (TOB 12:9). ''Please note that this is an Apocryphal claim.''</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Hedge your bets.''' Abraham was saved both by faith (ROM 4:2) ''and'' works (JAM 2:21).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Hedge your bets.''' Abraham was saved both by <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">his </ins>faith (ROM 4:2) ''and'' works (JAM 2:21).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Is wisdom good? ==</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Is wisdom good? ==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes,''' because “wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding” (PRO 4:7). When Jesus gained wisdom, it granted him favor with both God and man (LUK 2:52).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes,''' because “wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding” (PRO 4:7). When Jesus gained wisdom, it granted him favor with both God and man (LUK 2:52).</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' God will “destroy the wisdom of the wise” (1COR 1:19-20). Those who are wise in worldly things are seemingly fools before God, because an all-knowing God<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, by definition, knows </del>the thoughts of the wise. Therefore, wisdom is useless, since it offers no real advantage against God’s wrath (1COR 3:19-20).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' God will “destroy the wisdom of the wise” (1COR 1:19-20). Those who are wise in worldly things are seemingly fools before God, because <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">by definition, </ins>an all-knowing God <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">would know </ins>the thoughts of the wise. Therefore, wisdom is useless, since it offers no real advantage against God’s wrath (1COR 3:19-20).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Can wisdom make people happy? ==</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Can wisdom make people happy? ==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' “Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding" (PRO 3:13).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' “Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding" (PRO 3:13).</div></td></tr>
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Sysop: /* Is poverty a blessing? */
2020-04-30T17:19:36Z
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Is poverty a blessing? ==</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Is poverty a blessing? ==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' Poverty just destroys the poor (PRO 10:15). God will use riches to reward the faithful (PSA 112:1, 3; PRO 15:6) until gold seems as abundant as dirt (JOB 22:23-24). Whatever you sacrifice to serve Jesus and his gospel, will be paid back a hundredfold, on Earth, in your lifetime (MAR 10:30).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' Poverty just destroys the poor (PRO 10:15). God will use riches to reward the faithful (PSA 112:1, 3; PRO 15:6) until gold seems as abundant as dirt (JOB 22:23-24). Whatever you sacrifice to serve Jesus and his gospel, will be paid back a hundredfold, on Earth, in your lifetime (MAR 10:30).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Indirectly yes.''' Since it is extremely difficult for <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the </del>rich to enter Heaven (MAR 10:24-25), they are fated to miserable (JAM 5:1-3).  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Indirectly yes.''' Since it is extremely difficult for rich <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">people </ins>to enter Heaven (MAR 10:24-25), they are fated to miserable (JAM 5:1-3).  </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Irrelevant.''' God does not drastically alter the socioeconomic statuses of his believers. Instead, he brings them contentment (PRO 30:8-9).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Irrelevant.''' God does not drastically alter the socioeconomic statuses of his believers. Instead, he brings them contentment (PRO 30:8-9).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Are men and women equal? ==</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Are men and women equal? ==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' This is a <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">re-occurring </del>theme throughout the Bible:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' This is a <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">reccurring </ins>theme throughout the Bible:</div></td></tr>
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Sysop: /* Should children be punished for the sins of their fathers? */
2019-05-24T04:16:01Z
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' No one can be punished in the place of another since “every man shall be put to death for his own sin” (DEU 24:16) and judged by their own deeds (ROM 2:5-6). Since a sinner’s soul dies upon bodily death, sin cannot be transferred to one’s <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">decedents </del>(EZE 18:4, 20).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' No one can be punished in the place of another since “every man shall be put to death for his own sin” (DEU 24:16) and judged by their own deeds (ROM 2:5-6). Since a sinner’s soul dies upon bodily death, sin cannot be transferred to one’s <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">descendants </ins>(EZE 18:4, 20).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Are children innocent? ==</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Are children innocent? ==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' Children are entirely accountable for their actions, and should face punishment for any of their indiscretions. This was demonstrated when Elisha invoked the name of God to curse 42 children, as vengeance for joking about his baldness. The children were all promptly mauled to death by two female bears (2KIN 2:23-24).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' Children are entirely accountable for their actions, and should face punishment for any of their indiscretions. This was demonstrated when Elisha invoked the name of God to curse 42 children, as vengeance for joking about his baldness. The children were all promptly mauled to death by two female bears (2KIN 2:23-24).</div></td></tr>
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Sysop: /* Should justice be dispensed by one man? */
2019-05-24T04:11:10Z
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Should justice be dispensed by one man? ==</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Should justice be dispensed by one man? ==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' The laws set forth in the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Pentacauch </del>clearly state that judgments must be dealt by a combination of priests, elders, and judges (DEU 17:9; 21:2).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' The laws set forth in the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Pentateuch </ins>clearly state that judgments must be dealt by a combination of priests, elders, and judges (DEU 17:9; 21:2).</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' Moses, the alleged author of the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Pentacauch</del>, judged his people alone, without consequence (EXO 18:18).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' Moses, the alleged author of the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Pentateuch</ins>, judged his people alone, without consequence (EXO 18:18).</div></td></tr>
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Sysop: /* What can Christians eat or drink? */
2019-01-24T02:15:29Z
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Paul and Titus were both uncircumcised (GAL 2:3-4). Paul stated that those who need a circumcision cannot profit from Christianity, since compliance with the old covenant implied doubts about Christ’s new and everlasting covenant (GAL 5:2).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Paul and Titus were both uncircumcised (GAL 2:3-4). Paul stated that those who need a circumcision cannot profit from Christianity, since compliance with the old covenant implied doubts about Christ’s new and everlasting covenant (GAL 5:2).</div></td></tr>
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