http://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Points_of_Contention_with_the_Nature_of_God&feed=atom&action=historyPoints of Contention with the Nature of God - Revision history2024-03-29T09:29:28ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.27.1http://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Points_of_Contention_with_the_Nature_of_God&diff=2953&oldid=prevSysop: /* Does God change his mind? */2021-06-22T12:59:31Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Does God change his mind?</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**God told Adam that he could eat anything, and explicitly mentioned that he could eat the fruit from every tree (GEN1:29), and saw no problem with these instructions (GEN 1:31). God immediately reversed this decision, since it granted Adam and Eve explicit permission to eat from the Tree of Knowledge (GEN 2:17). This confusing situation ends with God unleashing the concept of death (GEN 5:3-5).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**God told Adam that he could eat anything, and explicitly mentioned that he could eat the fruit from every tree (GEN1:29), and saw no problem with these instructions (GEN 1:31). God immediately reversed this decision, since it granted Adam and Eve explicit permission to eat from the Tree of Knowledge (GEN 2:17). This confusing situation ends with God unleashing the concept of death (GEN 5:3-5).</div></td></tr>
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</table>Sysophttp://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Points_of_Contention_with_the_Nature_of_God&diff=2952&oldid=prevSysop: /* Are there many gods? */2021-06-22T12:56:29Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Are there many gods?</span></span></p>
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</table>Sysophttp://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Points_of_Contention_with_the_Nature_of_God&diff=2938&oldid=prevSysop: /* Is God omniscient? */2020-08-28T17:42:56Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Is God omniscient?</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' There are several instances of God explicitly not knowing something, which prompted him to ask questions:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' There are several instances of God explicitly not knowing something, which prompted him to ask questions:</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">God has been tempted:</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' The Bible explicitly states that God can be tempted (MAL 3:15), <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">leading </ins>Jesus <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">to forbid this </ins>practice (MAT 4:7).</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">**</del>The Bible explicitly states that God can be tempted (MAL 3:15), <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">which is why </del>Jesus <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">forbade that </del>practice (MAT 4:7).</div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Satan tempted God into destroying Job’s life for absolutely no reason (JOB 2:3).  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Satan tempted God into destroying Job’s life for absolutely no reason (JOB 2:3).  </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''He used too.''' The Israelites succeeded in tempting God into creating water for them at Massah (EXO 17:2, 7), but they were soon prohibited from tempting God again (DEU 6:16). Now, any attempt at temptation will anger God (ACT 15:10).   </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''He used too.''' The Israelites succeeded in tempting God into creating water for them at Massah (EXO 17:2, 7), but they were soon prohibited from tempting God again (DEU 6:16). Now, any <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">further </ins>attempt at temptation will anger God (ACT 15:10).   </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' God cannot be tempted with evil, nor can God tempt men (JAM 1:13).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' God cannot be tempted with evil, nor can God tempt men (JAM 1:13).</div></td></tr>
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</table>Sysophttp://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Points_of_Contention_with_the_Nature_of_God&diff=2908&oldid=prevSysop: /* Is Jesus also God? */2020-05-18T15:40:55Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Is Jesus also God?</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' Jesus explicitly claimed to have existed before Abraham (JOH 8:58), and that Jesus and his Father are one (JOH 10:30; 14:9-11), which is corroborated elsewhere (HEB 1:8). Jesus was “in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God” (PHILI 2:5-6) because “for in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily” (COL 2:9).   </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' Jesus explicitly claimed to have existed before Abraham (JOH 8:58), and that Jesus and his Father are one (JOH 10:30; 14:9-11), which is corroborated elsewhere (HEB 1:8). Jesus was “in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God” (PHILI 2:5-6) because “for in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily” (COL 2:9).   </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No, Jesus is neither God, nor a god:'''  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No, Jesus is neither God, nor a god:'''  </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Jesus claimed to be the son of God, which is not God, but equally powerful as God (JOH 5:18).  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Jesus claimed to be the son of God, which is not God, but equally powerful as God (JOH 5:18).  </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Was an ordinary mortal without superpowers (JOH 8:40; ACT 13:23; ROM 1:3; 2TIM 2:8); his miracles were attributable to God’s works (JOH 5:19; 8:28; ACT 2:22)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Was an ordinary mortal without superpowers (JOH 8:40; ACT 13:23; ROM 1:3; 2TIM 2:8); his miracles were attributable to God’s works (JOH 5:19; 8:28; ACT 2:22)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Sysophttp://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Points_of_Contention_with_the_Nature_of_God&diff=2907&oldid=prevSysop: /* Is God omnipotent? */2020-05-18T15:38:02Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Is God omnipotent?</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes, but only if there is no Trinity.''' God cannot be omnipotent if Trinitarianism is true, since Christ was not all-powerful, despite being imbued with all of God’s powers and abilities.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes, but only if there is no Trinity.''' God cannot be omnipotent if Trinitarianism is true, since Christ was not all-powerful, despite being imbued with all of God’s powers and abilities.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' The Bible explicitly states that God has limitations:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' The Bible explicitly states that God has limitations:</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**God required 6 days to create the earth (GEN 1:1-31). An all-powerful God [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnziufszqSE could have done this in an instant].<ref name="Stenger"> V. J. Stenger, ''God: The Failed Hypothesis'' (Prometheus Books, 2008).</ref></div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**God required 6 days to create the earth (GEN 1:1-31). An all-powerful God [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnziufszqSE could have done this in an instant].<ref name="Stenger"> V. J. Stenger, ''God: The Failed Hypothesis'' (Prometheus Books, 2008).</ref></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**God rested after creating the Earth (GEN 2:2).<ref name="Stenger"></ref>  An all-powerful being would not require rest, or need to feel refreshed.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**God rested after creating the Earth (GEN 2:2).<ref name="Stenger"></ref>  An all-powerful being would not require rest, or need to feel refreshed.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No, on a conceptual level.''' The fact that God even needs to invoke power is evidence that he faces challenges, problems, hurdles, and needs.<ref name="Barker2"> D. Barker, ''Godless:  How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists'' (Ulysses Press, 2008).</ref> Power, in any of its forms, is something that is used to influence one’s environment to solve problems. An all-powerful God would have the power to preclude such events, and thus have no need to exercise power.<ref name="FF"> L. Kaminski and M. Bagley, ''Fantastic Four,'' vol. 1, #351 (Marvel Comics, 1991).</ref></div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No, on a conceptual level.''' The fact that God even needs to invoke power is evidence that he faces challenges, problems, hurdles, and needs.<ref name="Barker2"> D. Barker, ''Godless:  How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists'' (Ulysses Press, 2008).</ref> Power, in any of its forms, is something that is used to influence one’s environment to solve problems. An all-powerful God would have the power to preclude such events, and thus have no need to exercise power.<ref name="FF"> L. Kaminski and M. Bagley, ''Fantastic Four,'' vol. 1, #351 (Marvel Comics, 1991).</ref></div></td></tr>
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</table>Sysophttp://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Points_of_Contention_with_the_Nature_of_God&diff=2906&oldid=prevSysop: /* Is God omniscient? */2020-05-18T15:35:31Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Is God omniscient?</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Is God omniscient? ==</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Is God omniscient? ==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">.</del>''' “The eyes of the LORD are in every place” (PRO 15:3), so no creature can escape his sight (HEB 4:13), and it is impossible to hide from him (JER 23:24). God is aware of every action (JOB 34:21; JER 16:17).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes''' <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">(1JOH 3:20). </ins>“The eyes of the LORD are in every place” (PRO 15:3), so no creature can escape his sight (HEB 4:13), and it is impossible to hide from him (JER 23:24). God is aware of every action (JOB 34:21; JER 16:17<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">) which has ever occurred, since the beginning of creation (ACT 15:18</ins>).</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' There are several instances of God explicitly not knowing something, which prompted him to ask questions:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' There are several instances of God explicitly not knowing something, which prompted him to ask questions:</div></td></tr>
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</table>Sysophttp://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Points_of_Contention_with_the_Nature_of_God&diff=2885&oldid=prevSysop: /* Is God omnipotent? */2020-03-14T13:59:34Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Is God omnipotent?</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' Nothing is too hard for God (JER 32:27); everything is possible (MAT 19:26), and nothing is impossible (LUK 1:37).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' Nothing is too hard for God (JER 32:27); everything is possible (MAT 19:26), and nothing is impossible (LUK 1:37).</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes, but only if there is no Trinity.''' God cannot be omnipotent if Trinitarianism is true, since Christ was not all-powerful, despite being imbued with all of God’s powers and abilities.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes, but only if there is no Trinity.''' God cannot be omnipotent if Trinitarianism is true, since Christ was not all-powerful, despite being imbued with all of God’s powers and abilities.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' The Bible <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">frequently references </del>God<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'s </del>limitations:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No.''' The Bible <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">explicitly states that </ins>God <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">has </ins>limitations:</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**God was unable to overcome the people in the valley, who possessed iron chariots (JUDG 1:19).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**God was unable to overcome the people in the valley, who possessed iron chariots (JUDG 1:19).</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**God required 6 days to create the earth (GEN 1:1-31). An all-powerful God could have done this in an instant.<ref name="Stenger"> V. J. Stenger, ''God: The Failed Hypothesis'' (Prometheus Books, 2008).</ref></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**God required 6 days to create the earth (GEN 1:1-31). An all-powerful God <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnziufszqSE </ins>could have done this in an instant<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]</ins>.<ref name="Stenger"> V. J. Stenger, ''God: The Failed Hypothesis'' (Prometheus Books, 2008).</ref></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**God rested after creating the Earth (GEN 2:2).<ref name="Stenger"></ref>  An all-powerful being would not require rest, or need to feel refreshed.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**God rested after creating the Earth (GEN 2:2).<ref name="Stenger"></ref>  An all-powerful being would not require rest, or need to feel refreshed.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No, on a conceptual level.''' The fact that God even needs to invoke power is evidence that he faces challenges, problems, hurdles, and needs.<ref name="Barker2"> D. Barker, ''Godless:  How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists'' (Ulysses Press, 2008).</ref> Power, in any of its forms, is something that is used to influence one’s environment to solve problems. An all-powerful God would have the power to preclude such events, and thus have no need to exercise power.<ref name="FF"> L. Kaminski and M. Bagley, ''Fantastic Four,'' vol. 1, #351 (Marvel Comics, 1991).</ref></div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''No, on a conceptual level.''' The fact that God even needs to invoke power is evidence that he faces challenges, problems, hurdles, and needs.<ref name="Barker2"> D. Barker, ''Godless:  How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists'' (Ulysses Press, 2008).</ref> Power, in any of its forms, is something that is used to influence one’s environment to solve problems. An all-powerful God would have the power to preclude such events, and thus have no need to exercise power.<ref name="FF"> L. Kaminski and M. Bagley, ''Fantastic Four,'' vol. 1, #351 (Marvel Comics, 1991).</ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' “The eyes of the LORD are in every place” (PRO 15:3), so no creature can escape his sight (HEB 4:13), and it is impossible to hide from him (JER 23:24). God is aware of every action (JOB 34:21; JER 16:17).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Yes.''' “The eyes of the LORD are in every place” (PRO 15:3), so no creature can escape his sight (HEB 4:13), and it is impossible to hide from him (JER 23:24). God is aware of every action (JOB 34:21; JER 16:17).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**God was unable to find Adam and Eve when they hid after eating from the Tree of Knowledge (GEN 3:9)  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**God was unable to find Adam and Eve when they hid after eating from the Tree of Knowledge (GEN 3:9)  </div></td></tr>
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