https://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Refutations_of_the_Arguments_for_the_Belief_in_God&feed=atom&action=historyRefutations of the Arguments for the Belief in God - Revision history2024-03-29T09:45:11ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.27.1https://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Refutations_of_the_Arguments_for_the_Belief_in_God&diff=2920&oldid=prevSysop at 17:13, 23 May 20202020-05-23T17:13:14Z<p></p>
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</table>Sysophttps://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Refutations_of_the_Arguments_for_the_Belief_in_God&diff=2779&oldid=prevSysop at 22:48, 8 January 20202020-01-08T22:48:53Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Be aware that Christians are notorious for using intentionally undefined <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">their </del>terms, so they can [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts move the goalposts] to suit their needs. Getting clergymen to clearly define their terms is necessary for a proper discussion -- and it automatically grants you a quantum of victory, since defining things limits them.   </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Be aware that Christians are notorious for using intentionally undefined terms, so they can [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts move the goalposts] to suit their needs. Getting clergymen to clearly define their terms is necessary for a proper discussion -- and it automatically grants you a quantum of victory, since defining things limits them.   </div></td></tr>
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</table>Sysophttps://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Refutations_of_the_Arguments_for_the_Belief_in_God&diff=2698&oldid=prevSysop at 05:05, 3 March 20192019-03-03T05:05:15Z<p></p>
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</table>Sysophttps://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Refutations_of_the_Arguments_for_the_Belief_in_God&diff=2425&oldid=prevSysop at 00:21, 29 May 20182018-05-29T00:21:34Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Be aware that Christians are notorious for using intentionally undefined their terms, so they can [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts move the goalposts] to suit their needs. Getting clergymen to clearly define their terms is necessary for a proper discussion -- and its automatically grants you a quantum of victory, since defining things limits them.   </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Be aware that Christians are notorious for using intentionally undefined their terms, so they can [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts move the goalposts] to suit their needs. Getting clergymen to clearly define their terms is necessary for a proper discussion -- and its automatically grants you a quantum of victory, since defining things limits them.   </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Again, do not argue with the clergyman. Our strategy is not one of confrontation; but of malicious cooperation.''' Victory will be determined by the length and fruitlessness of your conversations. Arguing will reveal yourself as a troublemaker, and you will be denied any further opportunity to consume their time, ending your journey. Besides, you can’t directly de-convert a priest; they’re [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost pot-committed]. '''De-conversion and [The_Church%27s_Weaknesses#Burnout burnout] are processes of erosion.''' However, discussing these issues in front of others can aid in their de-conversion processes.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Again, do not argue with the clergyman. Our strategy is not one of confrontation; but of malicious cooperation.''' Victory will be determined by the length and fruitlessness of your conversations. Arguing will reveal yourself as a troublemaker, and you will be denied any further opportunity to consume their time, ending your journey. Besides, you can’t directly de-convert a priest; they’re [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost pot-committed]. '''De-conversion and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[</ins>[The_Church%27s_Weaknesses#Burnout<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">|</ins>burnout<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]</ins>] are processes of erosion.''' However, discussing these issues in front of others can aid in their de-conversion processes.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Refutations for the most common arguments for believing in God are provided below. This is ''not'' an exhaustive list, but it should be sufficient; most seminarians are not required to study apologetics, and those who do often take a single 3-credit course.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Refutations for the most common arguments for believing in God are provided below. This is ''not'' an exhaustive list, but it should be sufficient; most seminarians are not required to study apologetics, and those who do often take a single 3-credit course.</div></td></tr>
</table>Sysophttps://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Refutations_of_the_Arguments_for_the_Belief_in_God&diff=2289&oldid=prevSysop at 02:27, 9 May 20182018-05-09T02:27:25Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologetics Apologetics] is the branch of theology devoted to rationalizing religious belief. This is intrinsically difficult, since religious belief is based on faith, which exists independently (and in spite) of evidence. As such, apologists tend to rely on philosophical, metaphysical, and historical arguments. The scholarship of these claims is dubious at best:  anecdotes -- even those of anonymous persons -- are uncritically accepted as data; and historical events and scientific theories are intentionally misrepresented to their advantage.  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologetics Apologetics] is the branch of theology devoted to rationalizing religious belief. This is intrinsically difficult, since religious belief is based on faith, which exists independently (and in spite) of evidence. As such, apologists tend to rely on philosophical, metaphysical, and historical arguments. The scholarship of these claims is dubious at best:  anecdotes -- even those of anonymous persons -- are uncritically accepted as data; and historical events and scientific theories are intentionally misrepresented to their advantage.  </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Be aware that Christians are notorious for intentionally <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">not defining </del>their terms, so they can [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts move the goalposts] to suit their needs. Getting clergymen to clearly define their terms is necessary for a proper discussion -- and its automatically grants you a quantum of victory, since defining things limits them.   </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Be aware that Christians are notorious for <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">using </ins>intentionally <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">undefined </ins>their terms, so they can [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts move the goalposts] to suit their needs. Getting clergymen to clearly define their terms is necessary for a proper discussion -- and its automatically grants you a quantum of victory, since defining things limits them.   </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Again, do not argue with the clergyman. Our strategy is not one of confrontation; but of malicious cooperation.''' Victory will be determined by the length and fruitlessness of your conversations. Arguing will <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">revel </del>yourself as a troublemaker, and you will be denied any further opportunity to consume their time, ending your journey. Besides, you can’t directly de-convert a priest; they’re [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost pot-committed]. '''De-conversion and burnout are processes of erosion.''' However, discussing these issues in front of others can aid in their de-conversion processes.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Again, do not argue with the clergyman. Our strategy is not one of confrontation; but of malicious cooperation.''' Victory will be determined by the length and fruitlessness of your conversations. Arguing will <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">reveal </ins>yourself as a troublemaker, and you will be denied any further opportunity to consume their time, ending your journey. Besides, you can’t directly de-convert a priest; they’re [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost pot-committed]. '''De-conversion and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[The_Church%27s_Weaknesses#Burnout </ins>burnout<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">] </ins>are processes of erosion.''' However, discussing these issues in front of others can aid in their de-conversion processes.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Refutations for the most common arguments for <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the belief </del>in God are provided below. This is not an exhaustive list, but it should be <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">more than </del>sufficient; most seminarians are not required to study apologetics, and those who do often take a single 3-credit course.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Refutations for the most common arguments for <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">believing </ins>in God are provided below. This is <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''</ins>not<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'' </ins>an exhaustive list, but it should be sufficient; most seminarians are not required to study apologetics, and those who do often take a single 3-credit course.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Sysophttps://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Refutations_of_the_Arguments_for_the_Belief_in_God&diff=1575&oldid=prevSysop at 10:56, 25 September 20172017-09-25T10:56:24Z<p></p>
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</table>Sysophttps://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Refutations_of_the_Arguments_for_the_Belief_in_God&diff=1574&oldid=prevSysop at 10:55, 25 September 20172017-09-25T10:55:38Z<p></p>
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</table>Sysophttps://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Refutations_of_the_Arguments_for_the_Belief_in_God&diff=1572&oldid=prevSysop at 23:05, 24 September 20172017-09-24T23:05:38Z<p></p>
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</table>Sysophttps://smitingshepherds.com/index.php?title=Refutations_of_the_Arguments_for_the_Belief_in_God&diff=1448&oldid=prevSysop at 10:54, 16 August 20172017-08-16T10:54:52Z<p></p>
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